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si quelqu'un lit quelque part une astuce pour sortir de cette pénalité, ça m'intéresse ENORMEMENT !!!

j'ai pas de compte chez eux

Jan a �crit:

Je n'ai pas de solution, mais tu peux voir la discussion à http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3119215-1-30.htm

Tu peux copier/coller la discussion en privé ?

ah ça, y'a pas de doute, je suis en plein dedans

et je commence à avoir peur que ça soit permanent

MagicYoyo a �crit:

Ca fait combien de temps que t'es au delà de la 3eme page ?

A part un blacklistage, je connais(sais) pas de sanction permanente.

première chute le 29 mars

et baisse de traffic petit à petit pendant 1 mois ensuite

aujourd'hui, je fais 10 fois moins de traffic qu'à l'époque

Un post intéressant sur le sujet sur wmw:

I may be completely off base on this, but here's my thoughts on this. The -30 penalty seems different than most penalties, in that its an obvious adjustment of a pages rank. Whatever has tripped the filters isn't bad enough to ban the page, it isn't bad enough to move the page to -300, but it's bad enough that the page cannot be in the first page of the serps. Perhaps google should have added some randomness to it, reduce a page from 25 to 50 spots, and no one would have noticed the patern:)

Too me it looks like a determination that the page is:

1) Not offering the user the experience they expected when clicking the SERP result when back at the original spot (+30).

or

2) By all other indications (PR, keywords content, links, body text, etc) the page should be at +30, but due to something else its been moved down.

Could this be results of user experience monitoring by click backs? In other words, google places the page in a spot and monitors all of the pages above and below it. It then notices that when people click on said page, they often click back and then go to a page below it and don't click back at the same time the pages above and below it are performing within a prescribed range. For example, lets say they have statistics that for the top 5 pages the click back percentage is normally (and they would have a lot of data to back this up) like this:

1: 10 %
2: 15 %
3: 16 %
4: 18 %
5: 22 %

But a page is sitting at #1 and its click back is actually 45%, so they drop it to the 3rd pages of the results where its normal to see a 45% click back.

If this is true then how can one fix it?

1) You could improve the page such that users are more satisfied, and assuming they are still monitoring it, it should move back up.

or

2) You can remove some of the SEO and the page will naturally rank in the lower spot.

To me it seems like it may be an indication that the page is already optimized, actually optimized so well that google is expecting more out of it. So why not improve the page?

This could be another tool in their arsenal to fight off the super SEO's and MFA sites that know how to get the right link juice, keyword optimization, etc to get a page high in the serps only to give the user a bunch of ads to follow on further.

Then again, I could be all wrong, thanks for reading my ramblings.

pas bête en effet

il faut donc payer des petits chinois pour cliquer sur le résultat #31 sans faire back pour faire remonter ces stats